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Today, I'd like to discuss likability versus competence!
How do we reach to optimum balance for...? Please take a look at this important background reading here. Based on the points from your reading and your personal experience, would you hire the lovable fool or the competent jerk? Of course, let's know your choice with why or why not, if possible  Epilogue: This blog is Inspired by a co-networker who alluded someone as being a "pedantic". The reason for this blame was he tried to add clarity to a nebulous point with definitions from the body of knowledge highlighting the objective criteria with realistic view. He also used his recorded observations for a topic for which he provides input as practitioner and theory builder for many years. Let's be mndful that when we challenge obvious mediocrity and status quo on Ecademy, we may be accused of being pedantic Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan [ < Previous ] [ Next > ] [ Dr. Mehmet Yildiz's blog ] [ 74 comments ] [ comment likes (89) ] [ More Like this ] [ # ] [ report spam ] or Login to submit your own content and comments.
u can say that again !Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan I assembled that remark! Rob. Strategic Sell; Interim Management and Consultancy - Strategic Selling, Marketing and General Management in the Technologies, Services and Software Sectors. And I fancied this remark! Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Remarkable. Rob. Strategic Sell; Interim Management and Consultancy - Strategic Selling, Marketing and General Management in the Technologies, Services and Software Sectors. Speechless! Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Beaten - have to go and watch the sailing - Brb. Rob. Strategic Sell; Interim Management and Consultancy - Strategic Selling, Marketing and General Management in the Technologies, Services and Software Sectors. I am beaten too by misery and mediocrity but hey, another joyful day, we both rise above and shine Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Mixed results for me. TNZ unbeaten, Samoa beaten by Wales and the marvellous Les Bleus beat the Boks. England V Kangaroos tomorrow with Italy V All Blacks and England against Argentina. Shine on as you say Rob. Strategic Sell; Interim Management and Consultancy - Strategic Selling, Marketing and General Management in the Technologies, Services and Software Sectors. The loveable fool will keep smiling and coming back for more while the competent jerk is stabbing him/her in the back all the time. Less sick days for the fool? Could be a plus. Also the fool will keep everyone amused. Good for morale? Could be another plus. I'll vote for the fool, generally has more integrity than the jerk. Barbara Nugent ....well said Barbara very well said  Regards, Doctor-Das, Suman ( "Doctor-Da" )  ....let's connect for a better tomorrow  Sounds like the fool and the jerk should form job share - as they both have elements that would be useful to a team, one has the skills, one has the social factor.  Sounds very pragmatic and honest to me, Barbara. Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Das, so I take this that you like the pragmatic approach too !Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Now this is quite innovative and realistic approach, Zara. Wondering who will propose the pedantic one Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Well Mehmet, liking Barbara's 'pragmatic approach' is different than 'being pragmatist'.... but, yes, I do believe in 'pragmatism' to some extent Regards, Doctor-Das, Suman ( "Doctor-Da" ) ....let's connect for a better tomorrow Thank you for clarification, Das. It makes sense. So you will not give any chance to the jerk if you were an employer; let's say a critical business and your customers demand quality and successful results? Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Hi Mehmet, I do so love these interesting dilemas! I would go for 9 parts likeable and 1 part competent jerk just to put some spice into the mix. I believe the more likeable ones would stay more motivated when they've got someone they'd really like to out perform. I believe it always takes a mix of people for any organization to really run well. Interesting article Mehmet. Thanks! LaRae Interesting. This blog is Inspired by a co-networker who alluded someone as being a "pedantic". The reason for this blame was he tried to add clarity to a nebulous point with definitions from the body of knowledge highlighting the objective criteria with realistic view. He also used his recorded observations for a topic for which he provides input as practitioner and theory builder for many years. Let's be mndful that when we challenge obvious mediocrity and status quo on Ecademy, we may be accused of being pedantic So, in your opinion, was the person who was pedantic in that other blog you mention being a "competent jerk" or a "loveable fool"? Derek Hi LaRae, I really liked your very innovative slicing approach in a mental spectrum. If I were an assessor for your solution, I'd certainly award you with accolade for this. I don't want to dictate my view yet but some kind of mix as you propose is a pragmatic approach. You are most welcome and I am pleased you liked that excellent Harvard study which tend to become a classic recently. Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Lol...A satisfactory answer to this question may require a 193+ IQ score of the replier since the questioner appear to have equivalent or higher score [metaphorically and humorously of course] The short answer is neither. The long answer is dynamically blended and adaptable competence with sustainable resilience for optimum required results on demand! (does it sound too pedantic ?)Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan well well, hold it…. So you will not give any chance to the jerk if you were an employer; let's say a critical business and your customers demand quality and successful results? Fine. I am an employer. Then hardly matters if my business is critical or not! Yes, before my customers demand quality and successful results, I will demand the same. And that's why I will do 'whatever' is required to achieve it…. Yes, for quality and successful results in my business, I won't count what I believe, but I will do what is needful…. Hope now you got my point of view very clearly Regards, Doctor-Das, Suman ( "Doctor-Da" ) ....let's connect for a better tomorrow Damn, just about to dive my answer of "neither" when I see you have given the answer away. With interest I was part of a conversation the other day with the subject who are you going to vote for. What came out of it was, all parties have "provable metrics" and "fine histories" to draw on. And yet the combined answer is that all parties were idiotic and that we were forced to choose between them! Soon this country (UK) will be forced to choose between a fool and a jerk, it seems wrong though. Regards N  socialmediagraffiti.com   Very insightful response, Nick; almost pedantic Yes, history may help to build the future as long as good intention is in place. Diversity and flexibility will certainly be good factors for resolutions. Yes, dilemma being a "state of uncertainty or perplexity especially as requiring a choice between equally unfavorable options" is a gigantic challenge which we need to learn and deal with it in our lives. Frankly, the situation of dilemma is not much different in southern hemisphere either! Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Ah; so the question about fools v jerks arising from the accusation of pedantry was a non-sequitur. Fair enough. There's been quite a few of those around recently. The long answer is dynamically blended and adaptable competence with sustainable resilience for optimum required results on demand! (does it sound too pedantic ?)It sounds like gobbledigook to me. That or management speak - which is essentially the same thing. Derek Ooh I couldn't be pedantic Mehmet otherwise I might get accused, and we can't have any of that now can we?! LOL Regards N socialmediagraffiti.com @Ah; so the question about fools v jerks arising from the accusation of pedantry was a non-sequitur. Fair enough. There's been quite a few of those around recently. Yes, spot on! @It sounds like gobbledigook to me. That or management speak - which is essentially the same thing. Agreed; not surprisingly, I didn't expect another geek like me to approve this vernacular so put a pre-emptive smiley there Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Neither or them. I'd choose the jester, because he combines both, Mehmet. Smart enough on the topics to not loose his head and fun same time. Tune in . . . Animals - Please Don't let me be Misunderstood. . . . Have fun, Andreas Wiedow - Alan's Daddy Very wise, Nick. Not in this network under the current circumstances; this is a business network mainly for small business owners. Yes, you may be accused because the margin for any risk and ambiguity is too low in this kind of business. Fair enough! The faster we sell the more approval we may get. Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan @And that's why I will do 'whatever' is required to achieve it…. Yes, for quality and successful results in my business, I won't count what I believe, but I will do what is needful…. Das, yes this is fantastic to some degree but for me to understand your approach fully, you need to provide me more pedantic details for the implementation of such a great idea. Over to you Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan The jerk.... we still can "model" him....the lovable fool ...will always lovable.... Happy Sailing! Cornelis de Maijer www.flakacruising.com FOLLOW ME on Twitter PS: Serious Fun Business So far knowing your smartly crafted responses, I need to be extra pedantic in my reply by defining the key word. You prefer Jester which is defined as "a professional clown employed to entertain a king or nobleman in the Middle Ages". From this definition, two instant prompts hit my pedantic brain: "king or nobleman" and "middle ages". Would this fit in to the 22nd century business that we strive for? @Smart enough on the topics to not loose his head and fun same time. A collective and cheerful  for this erudite reply. Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Ambiguity! I think it's fair to say there is confusion on these blogs. Regards N socialmediagraffiti.com Wow...modeling sounds a great concept within this context. We certainly need a little more pedantic input to clarify this fascinating concept. Any examples for may be some insights from your growing diversity oriented entertaining business? Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan You'd 'sail' him the blockades out of his stomach certainly . . . hehehe . . . Tune in . . . Animals - Please Don't let me be Misunderstood. . . . Have fun, Andreas Wiedow - Alan's Daddy @ From this definition, two instant prompts hit my pedantic brain: "king or nobleman" and "middle ages". Would this fit in to the 22nd century business that we strive for? When did we leave the middle ages ? I must have missed that. We have religious wars, we have pirates . . . we have Tune in . . . Animals - Please Don't let me be Misunderstood. . . . Have fun, Andreas Wiedow - Alan's Daddy Agreed again, Nick. Gratefully, I see this ambiguity as an enabler for creativity and better interaction. Besides, almost in 22nd century, who would like stereotypical and meticulously crafted punctilious doctrines and conceptions here? Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan I think it creates debate but I'm not sure about better interaction - Mugabe like doctrines for sure. Regards N socialmediagraffiti.com Stop hitting the spot, Andreas. I will soon run out of the approval symbols. Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan i beg your pardon Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan …so, you are in a 'pedantic mood' today am I right Mehmet ?!Well, what I said is… will do 'whatever' is required to achieve successful results …. Yes, for quality and successful results in my business, I won't count what I believe, but I will do what is needful…. …is it really complicated to understand? N …. I don't think so! Because, 'needful' means 'needful' - 'whatever' means 'whatever' and 'successful' means 'successful' and I have to rush for my clinic N W....Regards, Doctor-Das, Suman ( "Doctor-Da" ) ....let's connect for a better tomorrow  Makes sense but a more padentic input is requiredLikes (2) by Dr. Mehmet Yildiz  on 14-Nov-09 10:13amYes, I have a sort of hang over pedantic mood remaining from yesterday which left some bitter taste in my mouth. I regretfully feel like bitten by a magpie who bites my hand whilst feeding him! Enjoy your clinic and come back when you finish your work to quickly check the scores whether fools or jerks will win Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan ...simply enjoying the message of the sea fot the unbalanced ones...torture...for the balanced ones a massage Happy Sailing! Cornelis de Maijer www.flakacruising.com FOLLOW ME on Twitter PS: Serious Fun Business ROFLMAOAAPMP Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan  Makes sense but a more padentic input is requiredLikes (0) by Doctor-Das, Suman on 14-Nov-09 12:15pmshhhh..... I am in my clinic....... Mehmet, my dear friend, I think, your are giving more importance to something or someone - what or who deserves less.... I know, you are wise enough to catch my indication and apply the formula called "The Art of Leaving" ( now don't ask me what is it )...yesterday 'someone' wrote in his blog 'something disappointing' about 'homeopaths' - yes and not 'homeopathy' ! I know that person is not enough educated or not educated at all in any medical science…. So what could be the point to argue with that 'medically over pedantic fool' ? I just found it ignorable….. and Mehmet, I am not a professional homeopath (but studied some homeopathy) and I have respect to all the medical sciences as all of us- we are working hard to serve the society for a better healthy tomorrow….. anyways, today, the same person found some compliment (on the present issue) 'disappointing'…. Again, I found it 'somehow funny' moreover, I would like to request you (as a true friend) to think about ignoring 'few less important bitter things' and giving no or less importance to such 'ignorable issue and/or person'…. I will need more important issues from your end everyday to learn and grow for a better tomorrow…. ....in Clinic.... catch you latter Regards, Doctor-Das, Suman ( "Doctor-Da" ) ....let's connect for a better tomorrow It is a shame that you put all that stuff about being inspired by someone being called a pedantic Mehmet as it is a really interesting question and the thread has been spoiled by all the "silly" stuff about an old arguement that had elements of silliness itself. To the question: First of all I have found that being loveable is not directly linked to foolishness (unless you have ever had a redsetter) and neither is competance directly linked to being a jerk. So in my search I would try, maybe, to find a loveable competant. However that was not the decision you have given me and thus my answer would be it depends on the role, is it tech based (you don't want a loveable fool in charge of your IT, Competant jerk every time) or service based (loveable fool backed up by lots of training to reduce the fool aspect). Larger businesses need both as it is often the competant jerk who makes the challenges that make things better and drive the business forward and the loveable fools who provide the soul and atmosphere which makes up the touchy feely part of the business. Preferably the leader of the business is neither, although here is a question ... Is Sir Alan Suger a competant jerk? Iain Liverpool Business Club Helping Liverpool Businesses Make More Money The difficulty with this discussion is that it relies on subjective judgements...Which may not always be quite accurate, for example... Einstein A Munich schoolmaster wrote in Albert Einstein's school report, "He will never amount to anything", 1895. Hitler From his secondary school report card, September 16 1905: "Moral conduct, very satisfactory; diligence, irregular; religious instruction, adequate... freehand drawing, good; gymnastics, excellent." Isaac Newton His school reports described him as 'idle' and 'inattentive" Franklin Roosevelt described as a man with "a second-class intellect, but a first-class temperament" James I (of England, VI of Scotland) remembered as "the wisest fool in Christendom" and since neither incompetence nor being a jerk precludes success. Take note of the following "To those of you who received honors, awards and distinctions, I say, well done. And to the C students, I say, you too can be president of the United States." George W Bush addressing Yale graduates. So gentle readers, take care before you rush to judgement of course - what would you expect from someone with Time wasters and Tyre Kickers, in their fifty words. Michael Heaney Benchwhistler Associates Ltd Planned People Maintenance - Enhancing the Performance of your most important asset www.benchwhistler.com Know Better  Makes sense but a more padentic input is requiredLikes (4) by Dr. Mehmet Yildiz on 14-Nov-09 12:30pmSince I only focus on the important stuff and rise my head above water, I can survive cheerfully in cyber environments which produce some unnecessary toxicity sometimes. I am improving in handling and neutralising the effects of toxicity day by day. As I said to Rob earlier, we rise above the mediocrity and enjoy learning mutually in this collaborative environment. However, practicing dilemmas like I prompted today is a good mental exercise and help us stay fit and think on our feet. Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Hi Iain, It is interesting to obtain your views which added an important perspective to the topic. I like your answer that backing u pthe lovable fool with lots of training in order to reduce the fool aspect. It is a shift in thinking and I congratulate you for pointing out this. Yes, we certainly cannot afford a loveable fool in charge of our IT. As for the inspiration of this post, it is an educational element as personal duty of call for me. Please just ignore it or see thorns in a beautiful rose; I put it in pink personally to emphasise its lighness Like every human being, naturally I need to express my feelings in a way that will suit my personality, so that I can maintain my sanity...lolRegards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Very insightful as usual, Michael. Excellent historical examples to clarify the point from a realistic angle. Subjectivity and dealing with intangible aspects of matters require special handling. I personally stay mindful about this aspect as it almost always determines [or becomes a key factor for] the end result. Yes, as I elegantly put forward "neither incompetence nor being a jerk precludes success"! Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan I have hired both several times. It always ends with the same result. Your fired! I have really bad recruiting skills by the way so it is not really the fool or the jerks fault. I am recruiting at present and as always I try exceedingly hard to find people with much better skills and abilities than my own rather limited range. But then if I keep firing them does that mean I am the incompetent jerk and fool? Probably but we all have issues to deal with. Peter Here we have another great perspective from real life Certainly, issues never end in this life! Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan I certainly hope the issues never end. They are the challenge, the fun, and sometimes the terrible but if we were right all the time and everything was easy life would be dull. Peter Very good point, Peter. Dealing with challenges is better than having dull moments. The ideal would be a good balance between stimulation and serenity based on higher or lower energy. Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan So far we collected interesting ideas. Now I would like to channel the discussion to other alternatives for example the shining star. Who is the shining star in your business? How would you describe this person? What characteristics would you attribute to him or her? Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan today I send this comment already the second time, but here it fits better! beati pauperes spiritu blessed are the poor in spirit kutay f. helvacioglu lycianprojects.com  Mehmet- As teenagers say CHILAX (chill out + relax). Write the word pedantic on a piece of paper, burn it and then go about your business. Barbara I loved it Kutay. It has great meaning for me. Thank you. Here is my latin challenge: "Amicus optima vitae possessio" and "Amicus certus in re incerta cernitur" because "Aquila non capit muscas" .Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan thank you too mehmet, I see you need no more than fifty words to explain something .. kutay f. helvacioglu lycianprojects.com It is true, Kutay, brevity matters. In addition, shining stars whom I would hire for work can be sharp, focused, flexible, and deliver on time. What sort of people would you employ for your work? Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan  Dilemma or another reality check: Fool or Jerk?Likes (2) by Melinda M. Sorensson on 14-Nov-09 4:47pmOf all the questions that you have asked ..this is the most difficult so far I came from a background where there is no question at all. Competent jerk always wins. However, now that I am in a position to hire and work directly with people, the answer is not so obvious to me anymore. Before, someone else did the hiring So my answer is who would best fit the need of the company. Melinda M. Sorensson, Ph.D. Author, My Journey to An Integrated Life Self Growth Expert Ezine Articles Expert Author Thanks Barbara, I liked your method, and appreciate your care. However, as you may have my own method in handling with a heavy word used as a personal attack is to repeat it 40 times. It is so mysteries at mental and emotional level that the word suddenly turn into a neutral form which does not hurt the person any more. This has happened to me several times. For example, from now on whoever calls me pedantic, I will smile or even laugh at them; I may even be extra friendly and joke about their .... I diverted the topic to shining stars; what is your description of a Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Dear Melinda, Thank you for your insightful comments. Yes, it is a very difficult question and you handled it so well . How about shining stars? What kind of employees are shining stars in your business? I'd like to obtain your views when become possible. Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Dilemma or another reality check: Fool or Jerk?Likes (2) by Melinda M. Sorensson on 14-Nov-09 5:05pmThese are the characteristics of the Platinum Selling Agents for Van Eaton and Romero, Inc 1. They always put their family first. 2. They hire people to do the work that will take them away from what they do best, that is meeting the clients. 3. They are always upfront. No sugar coating. Always honest about everything. 4. They have infinite patience with the clients.Ohh I tell you 5. They are not afraid to change from being cats to tigers 6. They protect their clients at all times. warmest regards Melinda Melinda M. Sorensson, Ph.D. Author, My Journey to An Integrated Life Self Growth Expert Ezine Articles Expert Author Hi Melinda, This is one of the most creative position description I found. It is also transferable to other disciplines. "No sugar cutting" is a wonderful virtue in business. By having employees with these characteristics, you business could be producing great results. Thank you for creating an awareness on the characteristics of the Platinum Selling Agents. Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Dilemma or another reality check: Fool or Jerk?Likes (4) by Melinda M. Sorensson on 14-Nov-09 5:15pmThank you. In fact the company is doing fantastically in these times, thanks to all those people I described. Last month, it had 35 Million dollars in sales, two million dollars more than the same month last year. Since the prices of the real estate went down quite a bit, you will know that by volume it has to have done an awesome number. That is because of those Platinum Selling agents as I described. with best regards always, Melinda Melinda M. Sorensson, Ph.D. Author, My Journey to An Integrated Life Self Growth Expert Ezine Articles Expert Author Thank you for your clarification, Melinda. I am not surprised with these great results. I wish you the best in your personal and business life. Appreciated your invaluable contribution to this topic. Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan @ Stop hitting the spot, Andreas. I will soon run out of the approval symbols. Only a man can come up with such thing . . . I guess is depends what mood I'm in on the day ... I wrote something on friday to publish on saturday as i was going out friday night and wisely anticipated the fall out and state of my brain the following day ... When i re-read my piece it needed some tweaking because we were 24 hours later ... but it also needed tweaking because my brain was in a different place and what I'd read, that had made sense on friday, was confusing ... i added clarity and fixed my spelling !! so when brain storming i need the fool ..., and when implimenting give me the jerk ... then get the fool back in to sell it ... unless you are selling to technical folk who prefer some boffin to join the dots ... when i analyse who i have employed over the years they tend to be more technical and wise than bouncy ... i guess there is only room for 1 fool around here !! Thank you. Jon Davey "Sponsor THE Shed" Campaign The Business Leads UK Social Network More about me... 01753 852904 - 07881 744495 Jon, So you will hire both of them but carefully manage to use them for different functionality and components of your business. Very smart approach! Regards, Mehmet Dr. Mehmet YILDIZ || IBM || IT Philosophy || Future|| Leadership || Twitter || Linkedin || Yasni || Naymz|| Superfan Great article. In my opinion, while working with jerks, competent or incompetent, the risk of the jerk having a hidden agenda is also another issue. Might hurt in the long run.. Also, I dont think that we live in such a world that you can understand the person is a jerk - competent. It surfaces up much later than the recruitment process. Thus, most of the time, especially if you are an optimist, you at least for some time think that the person is a lovable competent guy, until his actions tell you otherwise. If the person is lovable, then viola, you might not have the option to consider his competency, because of emotional attachment. Jerk & competent is tougher to handle, because you might already have assigned him important duties. People are grayish, not white or black, especially if he/she is experienced.  Dilemma or another reality check: Fool or Jerk?Likes (0) by Ferdinand Felix Casantusan on 16-Nov-09 3:09pmI've encountered and mingled with several "lovable fools" and "competent jerks" on different occasions in school, and the corporate world (here and abroad) I have lived and breathed in, for 2 decades now. Frankly, I must say that every work place with more than 5 people breathing in, the 2 personalities can be clearly identified and distinguished without any sweat. One cannot live without the other, it's like the balance between the different food elements. On the negative note, the competent fool could be a backstabber or a clever fox, but then, positively, he/she could raise the greatest challenge in every determined, intelligent individual who could be the lovable fool. At the end of the day, it's always the end-result that counts. I guess the answer's already in between the lines. Just like a basketball, soccer (football), or rugby game, penalties are served when the limits have been reached. Now, for the benefit of answering your question, I honestly would prefer the "lovable fool". Why? Because a "lovable fool" can still be taught new things and become competent and a champion, unlike a "competent jerk" who only sees his own way, who becomes a loser in the end. History tells us that those who have been "labeled" as fools dating back to the old days, shaped the world, what we use, what we enjoy at present...everyday. Cheers, Felix twitter: FerdinandFelix |
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